Comments on: Due Credit http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/ Los Angeles Food, Events and Nightlife Blog Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:12:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: kboy25 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15442 kboy25 Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:00:57 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15442 wait you just cost soup plantation $3...is that really being altruistic? you just made someone poorer. LOL :PPPPPPP you're really nice e! to have done that. wait you just cost soup plantation $3…is that really being altruistic? you just made someone poorer.
LOL :P PPPPPP
you’re really nice e! to have done that.

]]> By: lexybeast http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15437 lexybeast Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:59:25 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15437 RE altruism- philosophical or genetic arguments aside, look at it from a low leve practical view. It makes sense to encourage more altruism, as you never know when you'll need the help yourself. I think it's unfortunate that Jolie's adoption has sort of turned adoption into a fashion statement, but that doesn't make it any less admirable... if you ask me, less people should have their own kids and more people should adopt. Too bad the 'my <i>own</i> children' mindset carries so much weight! RE altruism- philosophical or genetic arguments aside, look at it from a low leve practical view. It makes sense to encourage more altruism, as you never know when you’ll need the help yourself.

I think it’s unfortunate that Jolie’s adoption has sort of turned adoption into a fashion statement, but that doesn’t make it any less admirable… if you ask me, less people should have their own kids and more people should adopt. Too bad the ‘my own children’ mindset carries so much weight!

]]> By: *e http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15434 *e Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:47:32 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15434 @chng, that's a good point about overseas adoption. she has a lot to worry about as far as sue-happy americans (generally speaking). @pepin--great verse, i appreciate your referencing it. :) @big league--interesting point regarding genes and all...now what about altruism towards non-relatives? purely for the fuzzy feeling? or is there such thing? @chng, that’s a good point about overseas adoption. she has a lot to worry about as far as sue-happy americans (generally speaking). @pepin–great verse, i appreciate your referencing it. :) @big league–interesting point regarding genes and all…now what about altruism towards non-relatives? purely for the fuzzy feeling? or is there such thing?

]]> By: yangbot http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15433 yangbot Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:43:57 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15433 I have yet to go to souplantation!!! No one wants to go with me! :( I have yet to go to souplantation!!! No one wants to go with me! :(

]]> By: big league http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15432 big league Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:19:17 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15432 there's a biologic theory of "altruism". certain species will sacrifice themselves for their own offspring, but strange some will sacrifice themselves for more distant relatives. some smart scientists figured out that basically, you can only at max give 1/2 of your genes to the next generation in your progeny, and that is the goal of survival/procreation/evolution: getting that 1/2 to the next generation so they can procreate. thus, you and each parent, you and a sibling all have 1/2 of your genes IBD (identical by descent). you and a cousin are 1/8 IBD. they next stated that it makes "biologic" sense to sacrifice yourself if you can get 1/2 of your own genes to the next generation. so it's reasonable a parent would obviously sacrifice themselves for their kid (if not for romantic ideas, but b/c they are done procreating, but they want to ensure that the 50% of their genes in the kid, survive to reproduce again). but scientists noticed that certain birds in forests with limited nests and nesting areas, have difficulty finding mates because they're homeless......well they have cousins who are homeless and can't procreate, but will help raise the young of others. they figured, if you can help ensure the survival of 4 cousins, that's the equivalent of having 1 of your own kids (1/2 of your genes) live on to the next generation. they didn't believe that birds could be "altruistic", so they came up with this theory of simple genetics and mathematics. after that lecture, i started to seriously question if there really was such a thing as altruism or if it was a evolutionary tool built in to help the species survive. and if certain "saints" are simply altruistic for selfish reasons (warm fuzzies) or to try to get ot heaven. but enjoy jibber-jabber. i'm down with discounts at buffets. hook a brother up, e*.... there’s a biologic theory of “altruism”. certain species will sacrifice themselves for their own offspring, but strange some will sacrifice themselves for more distant relatives.

some smart scientists figured out that basically, you can only at max give 1/2 of your genes to the next generation in your progeny, and that is the goal of survival/procreation/evolution: getting that 1/2 to the next generation so they can procreate.

thus, you and each parent, you and a sibling all have 1/2 of your genes IBD (identical by descent). you and a cousin are 1/8 IBD.

they next stated that it makes “biologic” sense to sacrifice yourself if you can get 1/2 of your own genes to the next generation. so it’s reasonable a parent would obviously sacrifice themselves for their kid (if not for romantic ideas, but b/c they are done procreating, but they want to ensure that the 50% of their genes in the kid, survive to reproduce again).

but scientists noticed that certain birds in forests with limited nests and nesting areas, have difficulty finding mates because they’re homeless……well they have cousins who are homeless and can’t procreate, but will help raise the young of others. they figured, if you can help ensure the survival of 4 cousins, that’s the equivalent of having 1 of your own kids (1/2 of your genes) live on to the next generation.

they didn’t believe that birds could be “altruistic”, so they came up with this theory of simple genetics and mathematics.

after that lecture, i started to seriously question if there really was such a thing as altruism or if it was a evolutionary tool built in to help the species survive. and if certain “saints” are simply altruistic for selfish reasons (warm fuzzies) or to try to get ot heaven.

but enjoy jibber-jabber. i’m down with discounts at buffets. hook a brother up, e*….

]]> By: codemunky http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15431 codemunky Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:26:07 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15431 er, they aren't... er, they aren’t…

]]> By: codemunky http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15430 codemunky Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:25:52 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15430 Yeah, I too put quarters in strangers' expired meters. I just hope their not idiots. What am I doing for charity? I just wrote an article in an April issue of <a href="http://www.themonkeystrunk.com" rel="nofollow">The Monkey's Trunk</a>. I hope it'll better the world. And I also flatten moguls to make the world a better place to live. Yeah, I too put quarters in strangers’ expired meters. I just hope their not idiots. What am I doing for charity? I just wrote an article in an April issue of The Monkey’s Trunk. I hope it’ll better the world. And I also flatten moguls to make the world a better place to live.

]]> By: chngthengteng http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15429 chngthengteng Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:59:54 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15429 doing good deeds makes you feel good since you are actualizing compassion and empathy. getting "credit" for the good deeds makes only your ego feel good and since most of us are still attached to our ego, if our ego feels good, we also tend to feel good. regarding adoption (Val and I looked into the possibility) to adopt a local orphan will cost $5,000 to $40,000. (one website said it would cost at least 12K for Maryland) International adoption costs $7,000 to $30,000. The paperwork for domestic is supposedly worse and more difficult than international... guess it is harder for an international person to sue you. doing good deeds makes you feel good since you are actualizing compassion and empathy.

getting “credit” for the good deeds makes only your ego feel good and since most of us are still attached to our ego, if our ego feels good, we also tend to feel good.

regarding adoption (Val and I looked into the possibility)

to adopt a local orphan will cost $5,000 to $40,000. (one website said it would cost at least 12K for Maryland) International adoption costs $7,000 to $30,000.

The paperwork for domestic is supposedly worse and more difficult than international… guess it is harder for an international person to sue you.

]]> By: Pepin909 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15428 Pepin909 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:20:44 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15428 From Matthew 6 (The Message)- When you do something for someone else, don't call attention to yourself…When you help someone out, don't think about how it looks. Just do it—quietly and unobtrusively. That is the way your God, who conceived you in love, working behind the scenes, helps you out. From Matthew 6 (The Message)-
When you do something for someone else, don’t call attention to yourself…When you help someone out, don’t think about how it looks. Just do it—quietly and unobtrusively. That is the way your God, who conceived you in love, working behind the scenes, helps you out.

]]> By: albolin http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/comment-page-1/#comment-15427 albolin Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:20:02 +0000 http://www.estarla.com/2007/03/23/due-credit/#comment-15427 If we decided not to do these things because we didn't feel we are truly altruistic, then there wouldn't be much charity in the world. Nice job with being nice, even though nobody (except for the entire blog universe :)) knew about it. If we decided not to do these things because we didn’t feel we are truly altruistic, then there wouldn’t be much charity in the world.

Nice job with being nice, even though nobody (except for the entire blog universe :) ) knew about it.

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