If you live in one of multiple American metropolitan areas, you are likely familiar with Yelp! The concept is pretty simple in that you log in, create your profile, and begin reviewing business establishments. Their mainstay is restaurants. In the case of Los Angeles, there are a whole gambit of places to eat – so I think it’s safe to say that I live in the center of one of Yelp!’s target demos. In a place where you never run out of places to eat, you will certainly run across some pretty shoddy food and/or service once in awhile.
So then, you’d think that it follows that hip Angelenos who want good recommendations on where to eat and where to avoid might thank their lucky stars that there’s Yelp! to help them figure that out.
A little over a year ago was when I really heard about it blowing up. It was also when I first created my profile. I have probably reviewed random places I’ve eaten 11 times since then, which is certainly no match to really active Yelp! users. I see there are “elite” members in that they have written over a certain number of reviews (100, I believe).
So then, you’d think that it follows that these elite reviewers really know what they’re talking about since they’re pros at writing reviews on the internet.
Just wait a minute.
Okay now, in the interests of full disclosure, I have not delved deep into the site enough to really have given it a good, thorough assessment for the purposes of this post. But there were reasons why I’ve remained lukewarm and even cold on the site. See, I tried reviewing establishments in order to – *cough* – establish myself and proceed to maximize my usability. Not long after, I found that it took more time than I wanted to invest. I simply was just not interested.
As far as from the point of view where I was searching for an establishment inside a category (i.e. “Mexican food”) that I had never tried before, I would often notice places that I not only already knew about but thought were mediocre or even sub-par get rated with 5 stars (out of 5). Now, if a restaurant had 50 or even 100 reviewers calculated into this average, I just didn’t think it was worth my time to make my case. After all, you can’t argue with the mob.
But you can leave it.
I’ve just revealed the key ingredient on my dismay with the site. If there were dozens of averaged reviews I did not agree with, why would I invest any further energies with their host?
So already:
- I don’t trust Yelp! reviews because I find their concensus wildly different from my own opinions on the same establishments, thereby making me reluctant to seek their advice on other establishments, and
- I didn’t really feel it worthwhile to write reviews in order to “correct” said concensus on places as it seems that they would only be a drop in the bucket anyway, and
- Quite frankly, I would rather spend my online time elsewhere.
A particular review I came across about a semi-exclusive place in Hollywood alarmed me as to the sophistication of the reviewers, themselves. (Oh yes, I’m going there.) She complained about being charged for dessert for the Birthday Boy in their party, “despite the fact that the waiter asked if we would like to bring out a Birthday dessert for our guy – so naturally I assumed it would be free. Ends up they actually CHARGED us for it.”
‘Scuse me? Free? In Hollywood? Oh honey, you haven’t even found out about the $16 per top shelf drink (mixed), yet.
I thought it might be a fluke review so I clicked through to her profile. “Elite reviewer” was her title.
Far be it from me to judge an entire website based on one person, but I found disastrous reviews all over the place. So let’s see here. You think “elite” reviewers have been all over LA and therefore experienced tons of eateries, thus knowing the best places to go in the city – or do you think that that time is instead spent at home on the internet actually writing said reviews?
Because there are only so many hours in a day, days in a week, weeks in a month – to be also detailing your adventures on the internet. I would much rather be out enjoying the decor, savoring the food, absorbing the atmosphere, and going on to the next establishment to do the same thing. But you know, some people would rather go home and post their spin on it on the web so others could envy, consult or gawk at their literature (or did I say something before about a drop in the bucket?).
I read a lot of food blogs, and potentially learn great new spots from them. But I think the reason for that is that they have a larger accountability for what they say – and that is how they earn my trust. Yelp! on the other hand, is like the Poor Man’s Food Blog. People think that what they say will make a difference – yet make their reviews an opportunity to get on a soapbox or recount a really funny thing that happened at the restaurant rather than actually articulating a review, and then allocate stars according to that funny episode. You can give reviews “funny” or “cool” points – so you see people going for that sort of online validation through, for instance, poems. Seriously. What is this, again? A restaurant review? Oh yeah.
Here’s a clue. If it’s already on Yelp!, too many people have probably already found out about it and the quality has decreased since it’s been good, and/or you’re going to have to wait 45 minutes to get a table for brunch. Here’s a tip: Get out there, make some friends. Get a recommendation from someone who shares something in common with you. Go with that recommendation.
That’s not to say that Yelp! is not useful. This is how to enjoy Yelp!:
- Save “http://m.yelp.com” on your cell phone browser
- Whenever you need an address or phone number, go to this URL to look up the establishment. Ignore reviews. Bingo. Online directory.
Then again, you could always use Citysearch.
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10 Comments
Yelp exists for amateurs to post their tips and reviews. And they don’t discriminate against cheapskates.
I was invited to a party by a friend, which I later found out that it was a Yelp gathering, which for some funny reason, the venue where it was held at got some mixed reviews. It was humorous looking at the awkwardness when “yelpers” interacted with one another.
very very true. Yelp is too much of a social thing, where people THINK they’re in the know, but most aren’t. Yelp is only useful for places that aren’t actually popular or known. And with most cases, you have to take reader reviews with a grain of salt.
And that whole Elite thing? Some of those people really shouldn’t be…
I find yelp to be way too snarky, the posts try way too hard to have an edge and everyone comes off as if they’re trying to be the popular kid…and I’ve been to some Yelp sponsored parties in NYC and they are far from it! I’ve never seen so many geeky people act like they’re the shit just for being at a lame web 2.0 sponsored event. I like the concept but somewhere along the line a very ugly user base took it to a sour direction.
@codemunky: I wonder how a test for cheapskates would figure. “How much do you tip? a) 25%, b)20%, c)15%, d)10%, e) What’s “tip?”
@soulst0p: Now I’m thinking, maybe we just expect too much from people on the internet.
@Robbie: “Snarky” would be an accurate way to describe it. I would like to be a fly on the wall at one of these gatherings … for about a minute, and not a minute more.
I find yelp to be one of the most non-helpful websites. I have yet to create an account. What really annoys me are people who write reviews for grocery stores, Walmarts, Costcos, Targets, McDonalds??? No joke!
i’m a fan of chowhound, not yelp. yelp needs to find a way to segment the members. or have a feature like amazon where they can recommend other places based on other people with similar tastes.
@twolims: Haha, that’s insane. Pretty telling, huh? It’s as if they’ve actually run out of things to review!
@albolin: Actually, I have yet to check out Chowhound on a regular basis. That would be a good way to narrow down the reviews, actually.
Hey CUZ! I have a yelp account and find that many of the elite people are just idiots who review just to have their numbers up. Real reviews that are helpful are few and far between. It’s all relative, as well. Many people rate the sushi places in my town as excellent when in reality they would be horrendous compared to places in SF or LA!
Hope all is well with you!!!! (I sent you an add request on yelp, tho you don’t use it anymore, haha)
Hi hi, it’s been awhile since I read your blog since you switched over. I now have you on my google reader. I do enjoy your reading your experiences!
I had a similar experience with yelp as well. Initially I found it fascinating but realized how sub-par the reviewers were. Sometimes I think, who are they to judge when they can’t even cook themselves. How would they know good from bad food if they can’t even tell me what’s missing to make it better? Also, alot of non LA folks have higher expectations bc they think it’s an “LA” restaurant. OR they are shocked by the “LA attitude.” Come on, folks, you’re in the “city.” I also dislike folks that ONLY try trendy expensive places and refrain from hole in the walls. What the heck, isn’t that what makes LA so distinct – all of the hole in the walls?! Heh.
I do like chowhound, although the search option could be better. It pulls up outdated items and it’s hard to navigate!
I agree with you – food blogs are the best way to go. You can see why/which restraunts the blogger likes and even get a taste to their cooking style. I tend to trust a blogger that can cook, which is my own personal bias
Although, if they have great taste, a sensible food budget and poor cooking skills, I won’t hold it against them either! Sorry, for the long comment. I love fooding! Have a good one!
@yinyang: Thanks so much for coming by again! It’s been such a long while.
I totally agree with you on Yelp! yet again. I’ve gotten a couple tips from Chowhound, which were somewhat helpful but then again, the food blogs trump all.
(cowers head for poor cooking skills) tee hee.